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    Good point, jumper. I haven't personally researched this, but the word on talk radio is that to get a CCW in Ohio, you have to fill out a gazillion paged form, listing every place you've lived since you turned 18.

    Trav would have trouble with that, because some of his spacious college accomodations were parking lots two years ago.

    However, the word is that it's relatively easy to get a Florida CCW. Ohio has reciprocity with Florida. And Target World has the folks who know.

    I think we ought to get reason away from his organic farm for a morning and go shooting.

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    Boo,
    What I think is scariest is that the shooter's mother describes him as a good boy.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah.

    Remember the one that beat the cop in an alley in Northside, only to be shot dead by the cop?

    He was "good," too. His mamma said he didn't need to be shot. He had "goals."

    Yeah, that's right, "goals."

    Remember Shannon Marks? She was a very sharp young P&Ger who lived in East Walnut Hills about a decade ago. Her husband left for work, leaving the back door open.

    A young black man who lived with his grandmother directly behind the Marks' house, entered while Marks was preparing for work and took a baseball bat to her.

    One thing that struck me was how senseless the murder was. There was no motive, except to hit someone repeatedly with a baseball bat. The young man candidly admitted that if it hadn't been Marks, it would have been someone else.

    Of course, this was followed by the classic comment from the grandmother after her grandson was convicted. Of the conviction, she said, "He was never given a chance."

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    I think we ought to get reason away from his organic farm for a morning and go shooting.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's really tought to pull me away from daily communal with Mother Earth, particularly after cincygreg so bluntly slapped me into the reality that there is so much environmentally damaging evil to fight in this world.

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    I find it interesting that at the turn of the 20th century, the literacy rate among blacks was in excess of 90%. And that the literacy rate has been declining since LBJ decided to create the Great Society.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Walter Williams addresses this quite frequently. Racism is blamed for most of the black community's ills, but Williams points out that many of the problems are much worse today than they were in the 1920's when discrimination and the availablity of equal opportunity were arguably much much worse.

    I've even dismissed the economics argument, a point which at one time I would have agreed with.

    The black middle class is growing larger and larger. Even those today who can be considered "poor" are not "poor" in comparison to their parents and grandparents. While inequality certainly may exist, and discrimination certainly may exist, it no longer explains what we are seeing in the black community.

    Black "leaders" have so grotesquely failed. The only thing they have left is to explain away their failures by using the easiest scapegoat available: white people.

    Funny how the ones calling for the end to discrimination are the biggest bigots out there.

    <font color="#000002" size="1">[ June 28, 2004 02:42 PM: Message edited by: reason ]</font>

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    Originally posted by reason:
    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I find it interesting that at the turn of the 20th century, the literacy rate among blacks was in excess of 90%. And that the literacy rate has been declining since LBJ decided to create the Great Society.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Walter Williams addresses this quite frequently. Racism is blamed for most of the black community's ills, but Williams points out that many of the problems are much worse today than they were in the 1920's when discrimination and the availablity of equal opportunity were arguably much much worse.

    I've even dismissed the economics argument, a point which at one time I would have agreed with.

    The black middle class is growing larger and larger. Even those today who can be considered "poor" are not "poor" in comparison to their parents and grandparents. While inequality certainly may exist, and discrimination certainly may exist, it no longer explains what we are seeing in the black community.

    Black "leaders" have so grotesquely failed. The only thing they have left is to explain away their failures by using the easiest scapegoat available: white people.

    Funny how the ones calling for the end to discrimination are the biggest bigots out there.

    <font color="#000002"><font size="1">[ June 28, 2004 02:42 PM: Message edited by: reason ]</font></font>
    </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Word.

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    I shouldn't say that black leaders have failed. The popular ones have.

    There are others that march to the beat of the different drummer, but they are derided for not toeing the party line.

    Walter Williams is one. Shelby Steele is another. Tony Brown is another.

    I'm going to put Bill Cosby on the standby list if he maintains his current line of thinking.

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    Reason, don't you know....anyone of these hoodlums were good kids and they were just about to turn thier lives around. [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img]

    Bill Cosby was on my asshole list when he honored the so called boycott, but since then he seems to have seen the light more.

    BTW....did anyone realize the boycott was still on? [img]confused.gif[/img] The BUF was in the news today....they are talking to the Black Baptists about some convention in 2008....I guess they still plan on boycotting the next 4 years. LOL

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    Originally posted by Oldie Blonde Kenobi:
    Reason, don't you know....anyone of these hoodlums were good kids and they were just about to turn thier lives around. [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img]

    Bill Cosby was on my asshole list when he honored the so called boycott, but since then he seems to have seen the light more.

    BTW....did anyone realize the boycott was still on? [img]confused.gif[/img] The BUF was in the news today....they are talking to the Black Baptists about some convention in 2008....I guess they still plan on boycotting the next 4 years. LOL
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cosby is on my asshole list, too. I refuse to watch any of his reruns. Actually wrote the guy and complained that he gave power and support to bigots like Amanda Mayes. For doing that, I got a "friendly" note from his attorney.

    While I think he has made a step in the right direction, he has not undone the significant damage he did to this city.

    Without Cosby, there would be no boycott.

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